Bono’s political career is the subject of a new book being written by journalist Aleksandar Mitic and designer Tony Dosen. The book, titled Bono the Puppet, attempts to answer the question, “Is Bono a hero with a vision or a 21st Century puppet whose vision has been blurred by partiality, deception, and profit?”
It’s unclear if Mitic and Dosen have found a publisher for their title, but their book proposal outlining the content may be read at their web site.
Jeez, these guys are well informed. They can’t even get the name of the last album right. Check point 5 here:
http://www.tonydosen.com/bonothepuppet/why.htm
Jeez, these guys are well informed. They can’t even get the name of the last album right. Check point 5 here:
http://www.tonydosen.com/bonothepuppet/why.htm
I do not care about this theories (some people seem to have plenty of time to waste); I trust Bono and for me is one of the most clever men in the world and I’ll be always proud of being a U2 fan. Thanks lv!!!
I do not care about this theories (some people seem to have plenty of time to waste); I trust Bono and for me is one of the most clever men in the world and I’ll be always proud of being a U2 fan. Thanks lv!!!
A marketing man who wants to write a book. Interesting. I guess they think there
A marketing man who wants to write a book. Interesting. I guess they think there
Is this the only subject these “journalists” could find to write about? talk about “puppets”…
Is this the only subject these “journalists” could find to write about? talk about “puppets”…
I’d be interested to read this book. I have found that most of his “political” critics are critics of capitalism in general. Yes, if you don’t like capitalism, then you probably don’t like what Bono is doing. If you have resigned yourself that the world economy is a capitalist system, then what Bono is doing makes sense. Capitalism must be tempered with compassion, and that’s what Bono is looking for, and finding support from political and economic big-whigs. To suggest that he is somehow self-serving, that he is not giving of his time and life in a positive way for the whole world…well, I don’t agree. But I am interested to see what they have to say….and to see what they (the authors) are doing themselves to make the world a better place. If they’re doing as much as Bono, I’ll give them a break.
I’d be interested to read this book. I have found that most of his “political” critics are critics of capitalism in general. Yes, if you don’t like capitalism, then you probably don’t like what Bono is doing. If you have resigned yourself that the world economy is a capitalist system, then what Bono is doing makes sense. Capitalism must be tempered with compassion, and that’s what Bono is looking for, and finding support from political and economic big-whigs. To suggest that he is somehow self-serving, that he is not giving of his time and life in a positive way for the whole world…well, I don’t agree. But I am interested to see what they have to say….and to see what they (the authors) are doing themselves to make the world a better place. If they’re doing as much as Bono, I’ll give them a break.
I just e-mailed them to let them know the correct album title. And to get it straight before they bash Bono.
I just e-mailed them to let them know the correct album title. And to get it straight before they bash Bono.
First off, the itroduction to this “book” reads like it was written by a small child or someone who just learned the English language. Even the title “Bono:the Puppet” sounds childish and heavy-handed. Any publisher with any literary sense would not produce this trash, unless they were looking to make a quick buck using Bono’s name.
And Conor is right, they called U2’s last album “All That You Can’t Live Without!”
It looks like Al Queda is terrorizing us in a new way…writting books!!!
First off, the itroduction to this “book” reads like it was written by a small child or someone who just learned the English language. Even the title “Bono:the Puppet” sounds childish and heavy-handed. Any publisher with any literary sense would not produce this trash, unless they were looking to make a quick buck using Bono’s name.
And Conor is right, they called U2’s last album “All That You Can’t Live Without!”
It looks like Al Queda is terrorizing us in a new way…writting books!!!
I got a response from Tony Dosen, one of the writers. He said “U2 are the best. But this book is not about music. This book is about Bono’s political activism.” He also asked where I got the info about the book from. I told him that even though the book is not about the music, the facts should be correct. I don’t know why I am going on about this. I guess I just hate it when the facts are not correct.
I got a response from Tony Dosen, one of the writers. He said “U2 are the best. But this book is not about music. This book is about Bono’s political activism.” He also asked where I got the info about the book from. I told him that even though the book is not about the music, the facts should be correct. I don’t know why I am going on about this. I guess I just hate it when the facts are not correct.
dear mobo,
“It looks like Al Queda is terrorizing us in a new way…writting books!!!”
you are so stupid. this book is great. you are watching too much CNN, THAT’S your problem.
it is just different perspective. bono’s good friends from bush to izetbegovic are war criminals and idiots.
and that’s all.
dear mobo,
“It looks like Al Queda is terrorizing us in a new way…writting books!!!”
you are so stupid. this book is great. you are watching too much CNN, THAT’S your problem.
it is just different perspective. bono’s good friends from bush to izetbegovic are war criminals and idiots.
and that’s all.
You can pretty much tell what their arguments are going to be based on the way their proposal is framed. Bono’s a hypocrite because a) U2 sell a lot of albums, making them filthy rich; b) it’s all a publicity stunt by Bono; c) he embraces evil conservatives rather than write them off.It’s not like this should be unexpected. Bono is the most famous, most connected, and most successful celebrity activist out there. He leads a band that tends to win intelligent, politically literate fans who follow them with a cult-like devotion. It doesn’t surprise me that some of his own fans (and I believe the authors are indeed fans) would take offense at his intimate dealings with the Bush Administration, which is a pretty divisive force amongst Americans and Europeans right now.All I can say in antipation of their book is for them to take a dose of reality and go to bed. Bono more than anyone knows that his high-profile meetings with politicians like Bush are a quid-pro-quo: he gets an audience, and they get a little of the celebrity “halo” factor Bono keeps tucked away in his American flag jacket. Further, I would add that if these authors knew the first thing about lobbying, they would know that you never waste your energy on the votes you already have in the bag. Why the hell would you press Ted Kennedy on debt relief? Go after the “no” votes whose minds could nevertheless be changed by shifting the debate (to, say, national security or religious grounds). Votes like Jesse Helms. Or President Bush. Now that’s exceptional activism.
You can pretty much tell what their arguments are going to be based on the way their proposal is framed. Bono’s a hypocrite because a) U2 sell a lot of albums, making them filthy rich; b) it’s all a publicity stunt by Bono; c) he embraces evil conservatives rather than write them off.It’s not like this should be unexpected. Bono is the most famous, most connected, and most successful celebrity activist out there. He leads a band that tends to win intelligent, politically literate fans who follow them with a cult-like devotion. It doesn’t surprise me that some of his own fans (and I believe the authors are indeed fans) would take offense at his intimate dealings with the Bush Administration, which is a pretty divisive force amongst Americans and Europeans right now.All I can say in antipation of their book is for them to take a dose of reality and go to bed. Bono more than anyone knows that his high-profile meetings with politicians like Bush are a quid-pro-quo: he gets an audience, and they get a little of the celebrity “halo” factor Bono keeps tucked away in his American flag jacket. Further, I would add that if these authors knew the first thing about lobbying, they would know that you never waste your energy on the votes you already have in the bag. Why the hell would you press Ted Kennedy on debt relief? Go after the “no” votes whose minds could nevertheless be changed by shifting the debate (to, say, national security or religious grounds). Votes like Jesse Helms. Or President Bush. Now that’s exceptional activism.
There is a difference between a perspective, and an intelligent, informed perspective — not that I would expect you to recognize the difference. This book is yet another case of parasites trying to distinguish themselves by hanging off the tit of someone of substance and accomplishment.
I’m sure their ideas are as impeccable as their research skills, which can’t even get an album title right. Pathetic…and mobo, keep watching cnn, you see what happens to people who don’t?
There is a difference between a perspective, and an intelligent, informed perspective — not that I would expect you to recognize the difference. This book is yet another case of parasites trying to distinguish themselves by hanging off the tit of someone of substance and accomplishment.
I’m sure their ideas are as impeccable as their research skills, which can’t even get an album title right. Pathetic…and mobo, keep watching cnn, you see what happens to people who don’t?
ernie, we posted at roughly the same time, I didn’t mean you.
ernie, we posted at roughly the same time, I didn’t mean you.
from the book:
Bono’s good friends:
But who is Alija Izetbegovic, a
from the book:
Bono’s good friends:
But who is Alija Izetbegovic, a
about Al-Qaida for mobo:
In 2001, the year of terrorist attacks against New York and Washington, Izetbegovic was awarded the prize of
about Al-Qaida for mobo:
In 2001, the year of terrorist attacks against New York and Washington, Izetbegovic was awarded the prize of
from the book:
U2 is no doubt one of the greatest bands in rock
from the book:
U2 is no doubt one of the greatest bands in rock
just a shot in the dark but do they mention when the new album is coming out? 😉 (sorry needed a little levity).
just a shot in the dark but do they mention when the new album is coming out? 😉 (sorry needed a little levity).
Bono is puppet. He friends wit Bush. He no good…WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!! Anyone who buys this crap of a book is really hard up for a read. By the way AUTHOR, great post. That really puts everything in perspective for me!!! I hope you book is better than your post!
Bono is puppet. He friends wit Bush. He no good…WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!! Anyone who buys this crap of a book is really hard up for a read. By the way AUTHOR, great post. That really puts everything in perspective for me!!! I hope you book is better than your post!
Wow author, thanks for all the al-quaida info and background. Are you saying Bono supports Al-quaida? Please! I think everyone here knows where Bono stands on terrorism.
“Journalists, activists, and some other usual sceptics…” Ah yes, _the communists_, they’re _still_ out there. That train left the station with Achtung, Baby.
Wow author, thanks for all the al-quaida info and background. Are you saying Bono supports Al-quaida? Please! I think everyone here knows where Bono stands on terrorism.
“Journalists, activists, and some other usual sceptics…” Ah yes, _the communists_, they’re _still_ out there. That train left the station with Achtung, Baby.
bono is cool, he knows wesley clark…
bono is cool, he knows wesley clark…
dear mobo,
i didn’t say that Alija is “nice and kind person”, man with “humanism, vision and relaxation”
bono did.
and who is this man. bono’s good friend.? it is for people like you to think about it.
and i can name you another 10 imbeciles that are receiving political support from bono.
in canada, you have people who speak French and you have people who speak English. so if English is not perfect, editors will fix it.
and than you will use your arguments.
dear mobo,
i didn’t say that Alija is “nice and kind person”, man with “humanism, vision and relaxation”
bono did.
and who is this man. bono’s good friend.? it is for people like you to think about it.
and i can name you another 10 imbeciles that are receiving political support from bono.
in canada, you have people who speak French and you have people who speak English. so if English is not perfect, editors will fix it.
and than you will use your arguments.
he is not saying that bono is supporting terrorism.
but he is the puppet.
if us policy support Bin laden (like they did in the past) bono is there to say: they are cool.
when us make their friends into enemies, bono is there to say: they are not cool. they are terrorists.
that’s what you get when you watch CNN to much.
he is not saying that bono is supporting terrorism.
but he is the puppet.
if us policy support Bin laden (like they did in the past) bono is there to say: they are cool.
when us make their friends into enemies, bono is there to say: they are not cool. they are terrorists.
that’s what you get when you watch CNN to much.
U2 fans – I have annoyed the “author” so his true side would come out and it did. Look at his post above and you will see that the author of this trash book is anti-humanitarian. He is actually claiming Bono is pro-terrorism. This is hilarious!!!
U2 fans – I have annoyed the “author” so his true side would come out and it did. Look at his post above and you will see that the author of this trash book is anti-humanitarian. He is actually claiming Bono is pro-terrorism. This is hilarious!!!
make love people,not war..
make love people,not war..
dear mobo,
you are cool.
and I am “anti-humanitarian”
i am happy for people like you. you can turn on cnn, and you know what to think.
bono is great guy. and he is a great musician. but his political activism is b.s.
that’s all.
dear mobo,
you are cool.
and I am “anti-humanitarian”
i am happy for people like you. you can turn on cnn, and you know what to think.
bono is great guy. and he is a great musician. but his political activism is b.s.
that’s all.
No offense, mobo, but you are making a fool out of yourself. It’s hard to take someone seriously when they can’t even be bothered to proof read and correct minor grammatical errors in their posts.
With that said, I believe that everyone has the right to an opinion. You may disagree with other people’s opinions but, there’s something to be said for agreeing to respect opinions that might not groove with your own.
How do you expect to be respected if you do not, at least, listen to the other person that’s talking to you and respect their opinions, before jumping down their throats? Being faithful to U2 is one thing but, saying, “This book is shit! You suck!”, is ignorant. Not only is it not a constructive criticism, it is un-informed and baseless.
I can see both sides of the story and I respect them both. Good luck to you, author, and kudos to all of you, who decided to voiced their opinions in an orderly manner.
No offense, mobo, but you are making a fool out of yourself. It’s hard to take someone seriously when they can’t even be bothered to proof read and correct minor grammatical errors in their posts.
With that said, I believe that everyone has the right to an opinion. You may disagree with other people’s opinions but, there’s something to be said for agreeing to respect opinions that might not groove with your own.
How do you expect to be respected if you do not, at least, listen to the other person that’s talking to you and respect their opinions, before jumping down their throats? Being faithful to U2 is one thing but, saying, “This book is shit! You suck!”, is ignorant. Not only is it not a constructive criticism, it is un-informed and baseless.
I can see both sides of the story and I respect them both. Good luck to you, author, and kudos to all of you, who decided to voiced their opinions in an orderly manner.
I am not the author of this book.
but I support this book.
i received all chapters by e-mail from the authors.
i am French Canadian and english is not my first language.
so what is the big deal?
I am not the author of this book.
but I support this book.
i received all chapters by e-mail from the authors.
i am French Canadian and english is not my first language.
so what is the big deal?
Author, I would suggest you watch more CNN and get a real world perspective. I (and the real U2 fans) actually know more about Bono/U2 than you appearantly do, based on the fact that I, for one, have been a fan for almost 20 years met your subject and can properly name all of his albums. You go on and support your book of falacy, try to make a quick buck denouncing a man’s efforts to save millions of lives, and we’ll see who wins…Maybe you should write a book about yourself, and you can speak of your need to feed off, and discredit, the good-hearted accomplishments of others for a tidy profit. If you get a publisher, and I doubt you will, I will be in touch with them.
Author, I would suggest you watch more CNN and get a real world perspective. I (and the real U2 fans) actually know more about Bono/U2 than you appearantly do, based on the fact that I, for one, have been a fan for almost 20 years met your subject and can properly name all of his albums. You go on and support your book of falacy, try to make a quick buck denouncing a man’s efforts to save millions of lives, and we’ll see who wins…Maybe you should write a book about yourself, and you can speak of your need to feed off, and discredit, the good-hearted accomplishments of others for a tidy profit. If you get a publisher, and I doubt you will, I will be in touch with them.
please. Guilt by association is the weakest grounds on which to condemn someone. bono said some kind words about Izetbegovic, and he responded by granting him an honorary passport. must mean bono is an al-qaeda sympathizer, right? Here’s an idea: maybe it’s because Izetbegovic was the leader of Bosnia, and U2’s concert in Sarajevo in 1997 pretty much jump-started the local economy, motivated the region to repair its train infrastructure, and uplifted an otherwise devasted and demoralized population. Not to mention the many Bosnian charity drives that U2 supported publicly. Gee, you think Izetbegovic was a smidgen gracious?
please. Guilt by association is the weakest grounds on which to condemn someone. bono said some kind words about Izetbegovic, and he responded by granting him an honorary passport. must mean bono is an al-qaeda sympathizer, right? Here’s an idea: maybe it’s because Izetbegovic was the leader of Bosnia, and U2’s concert in Sarajevo in 1997 pretty much jump-started the local economy, motivated the region to repair its train infrastructure, and uplifted an otherwise devasted and demoralized population. Not to mention the many Bosnian charity drives that U2 supported publicly. Gee, you think Izetbegovic was a smidgen gracious?
Bono and O
Bono and O
Ballad of the Sun and the Moon
by Dave Marsh
I can pinpoint the nadir of rock music’s first half-century: That wire service picture of Bono standing with U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, the two of them wearing local African costumes somewhere in Africa. Bono’s idiocy is here complete, since the most benighted tourist with a skin full of rum would know better than to allow this shot to circulate. But tourists are, for the most part, innocent of much beyond blind pursuit of pleasure. With his African junket alongside O’Neill, Bono practices actual evil. The trip’s purpose is to endorse the power of rich nations to control the fate of poor ones, so long as the occasional bone is thrown.
The junket also enhances the image of one of the rottenest characters in the Bush regime. Next time he goes to Jamaica, Bono might take a jaunt around Jamaica to see firsthand the depredations of Alcoa’s bauxite mining O’Neill ran Alcoa for 12 years. Before that he ran International Paper, devastating much of the Black Belt of the southern United States. That is, O’Neill played a major role in defiling the places where both the blues and reggae were born.
Bono portrays himself as the latest in a line of rock daredevils trying to change the world. In reality, everything Bono does-starting with his support of the Irish and English governments– attempts to *stabilize* the world, freezing the globe’s poor into subservience. All the rockers who changed-and are changing-the world go about it differently. Instead of spending their time pretending not to suck up to power at its most loathsome, they make music that delves into their own lives and the lives of the people they love. Those who truly work for a different kind of world use their talent and fame to tell the stories that aren’t being told anywhere else. They make records like Alejandro Escovedo’s By the Hand of the Father (Texas Music Group).
The album, based on a stage play Escovedo cowrote, offers beautiful, haunting music, using strings as well as guitars to offset rock riffs. Although a couple of the songs (“The Ballad of the Sun and the Moon,” “With These Hands”) appear on earlier Escovedo albums, much of the best music is either score, with cello as the lead instrument, or versions of specific Mexican idioms. (“Mexicano Americano” raves on regardless.)
The first time I ever heard Alejandro, he sang Woody Guthrie’s “Deportees,” the great ballad of the migrant farmworker. By the Hand of the Father sometimes feels like a first-hand expansion of that story, but a lot of it is tied up in issues as quotidian as homesickness, the hope of romance and the agony when life ruins it. That is, it is the life of the migrant made nearly universal-so universal that the detailed differences glare unmistakably from the tapestry.
Escovedo never stops noticing how poor these people-his people-are. That fact carries the weight of all his tales. But he puts his finger on the issue just once: “You see the wicked prowl across the border / They say death’s the only peace the poor understand.”
This is not anybody trying to “speak truth to power.” It’s a recognition that the powerful know the truth and that part of the truth is that nobody knows much at all about the poor as human individuals, and that if you’re poor enough, making a living from one day to the next may come to constitute a legitimate triumph. Those two bare lines contain all the things you never learn sitting in conference rooms and traveling from town to town with a potentate’s entourage.
Alejandro Escovedo speaks the power OF truth. Rock music cannot tell all of it, but for millions, all of it cannot be told any longer without rock, and the music that came after it, and the music that came before it. It certainly cannot be told while standing in the shadows, smirking an implicit endorsement of the way things are.
HE WILL FOLLOW…
HE WILL FOLLOW
Ballad of the Sun and the Moon
by Dave Marsh
I can pinpoint the nadir of rock music’s first half-century: That wire service picture of Bono standing with U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, the two of them wearing local African costumes somewhere in Africa. Bono’s idiocy is here complete, since the most benighted tourist with a skin full of rum would know better than to allow this shot to circulate. But tourists are, for the most part, innocent of much beyond blind pursuit of pleasure. With his African junket alongside O’Neill, Bono practices actual evil. The trip’s purpose is to endorse the power of rich nations to control the fate of poor ones, so long as the occasional bone is thrown.
The junket also enhances the image of one of the rottenest characters in the Bush regime. Next time he goes to Jamaica, Bono might take a jaunt around Jamaica to see firsthand the depredations of Alcoa’s bauxite mining O’Neill ran Alcoa for 12 years. Before that he ran International Paper, devastating much of the Black Belt of the southern United States. That is, O’Neill played a major role in defiling the places where both the blues and reggae were born.
Bono portrays himself as the latest in a line of rock daredevils trying to change the world. In reality, everything Bono does-starting with his support of the Irish and English governments– attempts to *stabilize* the world, freezing the globe’s poor into subservience. All the rockers who changed-and are changing-the world go about it differently. Instead of spending their time pretending not to suck up to power at its most loathsome, they make music that delves into their own lives and the lives of the people they love. Those who truly work for a different kind of world use their talent and fame to tell the stories that aren’t being told anywhere else. They make records like Alejandro Escovedo’s By the Hand of the Father (Texas Music Group).
The album, based on a stage play Escovedo cowrote, offers beautiful, haunting music, using strings as well as guitars to offset rock riffs. Although a couple of the songs (“The Ballad of the Sun and the Moon,” “With These Hands”) appear on earlier Escovedo albums, much of the best music is either score, with cello as the lead instrument, or versions of specific Mexican idioms. (“Mexicano Americano” raves on regardless.)
The first time I ever heard Alejandro, he sang Woody Guthrie’s “Deportees,” the great ballad of the migrant farmworker. By the Hand of the Father sometimes feels like a first-hand expansion of that story, but a lot of it is tied up in issues as quotidian as homesickness, the hope of romance and the agony when life ruins it. That is, it is the life of the migrant made nearly universal-so universal that the detailed differences glare unmistakably from the tapestry.
Escovedo never stops noticing how poor these people-his people-are. That fact carries the weight of all his tales. But he puts his finger on the issue just once: “You see the wicked prowl across the border / They say death’s the only peace the poor understand.”
This is not anybody trying to “speak truth to power.” It’s a recognition that the powerful know the truth and that part of the truth is that nobody knows much at all about the poor as human individuals, and that if you’re poor enough, making a living from one day to the next may come to constitute a legitimate triumph. Those two bare lines contain all the things you never learn sitting in conference rooms and traveling from town to town with a potentate’s entourage.
Alejandro Escovedo speaks the power OF truth. Rock music cannot tell all of it, but for millions, all of it cannot be told any longer without rock, and the music that came after it, and the music that came before it. It certainly cannot be told while standing in the shadows, smirking an implicit endorsement of the way things are.
HE WILL FOLLOW…
HE WILL FOLLOW
Paul H. O’Neill was nominated by then President-Elect George W. Bush on December 20, 2000, to be the 72nd Secretary of the Treasury. His confirmation hearing was held on January 17, 2001, Mr. O’Neill received Senate confirmation and was sworn in on January 20, 2001. O’Neill’s unique experience transforming an old economy firm into a new economy success has been chronicled as a study by the Harvard Business School, and studied in business schools across the nation. O’Neill has gained valuable insights into international finance and the global economy as head of a major corporation with 140, 000 employees spread across 36 nations. O’Neill’s mastery of federal budget details and process stems from his tenure at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.
Duties and Accomplishments:
The Secretary of the Treasury is responsible for formulating and recommending domestic and international financial, economic, and tax policy, participating in the formulation of broad fiscal policies that have general significance for the economy, and managing the public debt. The Secretary oversees the activities of the Treasury Department in carrying out his major law enforcement responsibilities; in serving as the financial agent for the U.S. Government; and in manufacturing coins and currency.
The chief financial officer of the Government, the Secretary serves on the President’s National Economic Council. He is also Chairman of the Boards and Managing Trustee of the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds, Chairman of the Thrift Depositor Protection Oversight Board, and serves as U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, the Asian Development Bank, the African Development Bank, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
Personal Highlights:
Mr. O’Neill served as Chairman and CEO of Alcoa from 1987 until 1999. He retired as chairman at the end of 2000. In 1977, O’Neill joined International Paper Company as Vice President for Planning, serving in that capacity until 1985.
Between 1967 and 1977, O’Neill served at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB). He joined OMB in 1967, and was deputy director of OMB from 1974 to 1977. He began his public service as a computer systems analyst with the US Veterans Administration, where he served from 1961 to 1966.
Secretary O’Neill also served as Director of the American Enterprise Institute, served on the Boards of Directors of Eastman Kodak Company, Lucent Technologies, and the Rand Corporation.
He obtained his Bachelor’s Degree in Economic from Fresno State College in California and his Master’s Degree in Public Administration from Indiana University. He and his wife, Nancy, have three daughters, one son and twelve grandchildren. Mr. O’Neill was born in St. Louis, Missouri, on December 4, 1935.
Paul H. O’Neill was nominated by then President-Elect George W. Bush on December 20, 2000, to be the 72nd Secretary of the Treasury. His confirmation hearing was held on January 17, 2001, Mr. O’Neill received Senate confirmation and was sworn in on January 20, 2001. O’Neill’s unique experience transforming an old economy firm into a new economy success has been chronicled as a study by the Harvard Business School, and studied in business schools across the nation. O’Neill has gained valuable insights into international finance and the global economy as head of a major corporation with 140, 000 employees spread across 36 nations. O’Neill’s mastery of federal budget details and process stems from his tenure at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.
Duties and Accomplishments:
The Secretary of the Treasury is responsible for formulating and recommending domestic and international financial, economic, and tax policy, participating in the formulation of broad fiscal policies that have general significance for the economy, and managing the public debt. The Secretary oversees the activities of the Treasury Department in carrying out his major law enforcement responsibilities; in serving as the financial agent for the U.S. Government; and in manufacturing coins and currency.
The chief financial officer of the Government, the Secretary serves on the President’s National Economic Council. He is also Chairman of the Boards and Managing Trustee of the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds, Chairman of the Thrift Depositor Protection Oversight Board, and serves as U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, the Asian Development Bank, the African Development Bank, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
Personal Highlights:
Mr. O’Neill served as Chairman and CEO of Alcoa from 1987 until 1999. He retired as chairman at the end of 2000. In 1977, O’Neill joined International Paper Company as Vice President for Planning, serving in that capacity until 1985.
Between 1967 and 1977, O’Neill served at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB). He joined OMB in 1967, and was deputy director of OMB from 1974 to 1977. He began his public service as a computer systems analyst with the US Veterans Administration, where he served from 1961 to 1966.
Secretary O’Neill also served as Director of the American Enterprise Institute, served on the Boards of Directors of Eastman Kodak Company, Lucent Technologies, and the Rand Corporation.
He obtained his Bachelor’s Degree in Economic from Fresno State College in California and his Master’s Degree in Public Administration from Indiana University. He and his wife, Nancy, have three daughters, one son and twelve grandchildren. Mr. O’Neill was born in St. Louis, Missouri, on December 4, 1935.
Has Bono sold out?
They play Bono like a violin, establishing bleeding-heart “cred” while reshaping the world in their corporate image. He’s the little bad boy invited to the grownups’ parties because they know how to “handle” him.
U2’s singer has hob-nobbed with the rich and powerful for years, but his Super Bowl performance was the last straw, says Juan Rodriquez.
Juan Rodriquez
The Ottawa Citizen
Reuters
U2 lead singer Bono, unabashed friend of the rich and famous, flashes the Stars and Stripes during the Super Bowl halftime show.
MONTREAL – What’s wrong with these pictures? Jesse Helms, the U.S. Senator who turned his back on Nelson Mandela, says to Bono: “You’ll always have a friend here.” Paul O’Neil, the U.S. treasury secretary who said of Enron’s wicked demise, “Companies come and go,” calls Bono “my good friend.”
Synergy abounds: the Pope swipes Bono’s wraparound shades for the ultimate photo-op, and Bono dubs his high-powered pal Bill Gates “the pope of software.”
Cap backwards, deep in thought with Jean Chr
Has Bono sold out?
They play Bono like a violin, establishing bleeding-heart “cred” while reshaping the world in their corporate image. He’s the little bad boy invited to the grownups’ parties because they know how to “handle” him.
U2’s singer has hob-nobbed with the rich and powerful for years, but his Super Bowl performance was the last straw, says Juan Rodriquez.
Juan Rodriquez
The Ottawa Citizen
Reuters
U2 lead singer Bono, unabashed friend of the rich and famous, flashes the Stars and Stripes during the Super Bowl halftime show.
MONTREAL – What’s wrong with these pictures? Jesse Helms, the U.S. Senator who turned his back on Nelson Mandela, says to Bono: “You’ll always have a friend here.” Paul O’Neil, the U.S. treasury secretary who said of Enron’s wicked demise, “Companies come and go,” calls Bono “my good friend.”
Synergy abounds: the Pope swipes Bono’s wraparound shades for the ultimate photo-op, and Bono dubs his high-powered pal Bill Gates “the pope of software.”
Cap backwards, deep in thought with Jean Chr
this book is as intellectually valid as ann coulter’s baseless fascist propaganda and bush’s pre-emptive strike policy.
bono is an extraordinary human being. his & U2’s commitment to human rights and welfare has been astonishing. when everyone packed up after live aid in the 80’s, Bono steadfastly remained involved. bono and his wife ali were the only ones to actually visit ethiopia and witness the famines. they’ve done countless benefits and have heralded the banners of amnesty international and greenpeace for almost two decades.
with jubilee 2000, bono oversaw the single largest signature drive over in Europe and helped Africa purge hundreds of billions of dollars of debt. and this isn’t a hero?
he’s actually toured through the midwest on a publicity junket to get middle americans to actually care about the welfare of africans.
and don’t forget his music. bono’s voice and lyrics have helped many through some hard spots in life, and offered a unique, sensible perspective.
in comparision, what has the author(s)done for mankind lately? that’s right, nothing. zip. nada. these are the kind of people who I like to term ‘parasites’. they exist to feed on others. they shamelessly covet and attempt to destroy those who better society.
the irony is that there is a TOTAL puppet on that cover. and that is george w. bush. this neo-conservative neanderthal has looted this country and murdered thousands upon thousands of people to make his rich overlords happy and filthy rich, all the time pandering to his fascist christian supporters. who’s the puppet? two words for you, people: Karl rove. karl %#$@ rove is actually running the country, people.
yep. bush. now, that’s a puppet.
hey, jealousy is ugly. somebody give these guys syphillis or something.
and, oh very pretty please with sugar on top, anyone but bush in 2004 !!!!!!
this book is as intellectually valid as ann coulter’s baseless fascist propaganda and bush’s pre-emptive strike policy.
bono is an extraordinary human being. his & U2’s commitment to human rights and welfare has been astonishing. when everyone packed up after live aid in the 80’s, Bono steadfastly remained involved. bono and his wife ali were the only ones to actually visit ethiopia and witness the famines. they’ve done countless benefits and have heralded the banners of amnesty international and greenpeace for almost two decades.
with jubilee 2000, bono oversaw the single largest signature drive over in Europe and helped Africa purge hundreds of billions of dollars of debt. and this isn’t a hero?
he’s actually toured through the midwest on a publicity junket to get middle americans to actually care about the welfare of africans.
and don’t forget his music. bono’s voice and lyrics have helped many through some hard spots in life, and offered a unique, sensible perspective.
in comparision, what has the author(s)done for mankind lately? that’s right, nothing. zip. nada. these are the kind of people who I like to term ‘parasites’. they exist to feed on others. they shamelessly covet and attempt to destroy those who better society.
the irony is that there is a TOTAL puppet on that cover. and that is george w. bush. this neo-conservative neanderthal has looted this country and murdered thousands upon thousands of people to make his rich overlords happy and filthy rich, all the time pandering to his fascist christian supporters. who’s the puppet? two words for you, people: Karl rove. karl %#$@ rove is actually running the country, people.
yep. bush. now, that’s a puppet.
hey, jealousy is ugly. somebody give these guys syphillis or something.
and, oh very pretty please with sugar on top, anyone but bush in 2004 !!!!!!
A few notes:
– George W. Bush is neither an imbecile nor a war criminal — and he’s certainly not both, despite the fact that so many of his opponents maintain this ridiculous notion that he’s simultaneously diabolical *and* dimwitted.
– I can’t tell whether the book (or anyone here) is attempting to connect Bush with al Queda, but that seems like an odd conspiracy, seeing that Bush is trying to wipe the terrorist organization off the face of the earth.
– To focus on the subject of Bono, *lots* of well-meaning liberals (is there any other kind?) have supported dictators, totalitarians, and other assorted thugs, including Che Guevara, Castro, and Arafat. *If* Bono actually vocally supported a Bosnian bad guy, it wouldn’t be the first time that a liberal did that… and it certainly would not be proof of some vast conspiracy.
A few notes:
– George W. Bush is neither an imbecile nor a war criminal — and he’s certainly not both, despite the fact that so many of his opponents maintain this ridiculous notion that he’s simultaneously diabolical *and* dimwitted.
– I can’t tell whether the book (or anyone here) is attempting to connect Bush with al Queda, but that seems like an odd conspiracy, seeing that Bush is trying to wipe the terrorist organization off the face of the earth.
– To focus on the subject of Bono, *lots* of well-meaning liberals (is there any other kind?) have supported dictators, totalitarians, and other assorted thugs, including Che Guevara, Castro, and Arafat. *If* Bono actually vocally supported a Bosnian bad guy, it wouldn’t be the first time that a liberal did that… and it certainly would not be proof of some vast conspiracy.
THINK DIFEERENT.
This is great book.
If you don’t get it – your problem.
Peace.
THINK DIFEERENT.
This is great book.
If you don’t get it – your problem.
Peace.
bono is just a human. and all people make mistakes. so bono did a lot of stupid things too. and he did a lot of good things too. this book is good, but it is concentrating only on bad things that he did. or maybe we should first read this book.
bono is just a human. and all people make mistakes. so bono did a lot of stupid things too. and he did a lot of good things too. this book is good, but it is concentrating only on bad things that he did. or maybe we should first read this book.
Congratulations, lemondrop. It’s been a while since I’ve seen so much foolishness crammed into so few words.
Congratulations, lemondrop. It’s been a while since I’ve seen so much foolishness crammed into so few words.
I’m looking forward to the book. Watching Bono grovel for Soros at the WEF and
then scoring the Super Bowl gig the next day was hard to take. Here was the buffoon sporting the Stars and Stripes at half-time while Afganistan bombed to shit. From walks in the rose graden with Bush to grovelling and playing jester for a Canadian Prime Minister Chretien in need of a public
relations boost to shrilling for the Soros front “Drop the Debt”, our man Bono has done handstands for some of the shadiest crimminals around.
> Good luck. It’s time that the likes of Bono were exposed.
I’m looking forward to the book. Watching Bono grovel for Soros at the WEF and
then scoring the Super Bowl gig the next day was hard to take. Here was the buffoon sporting the Stars and Stripes at half-time while Afganistan bombed to shit. From walks in the rose graden with Bush to grovelling and playing jester for a Canadian Prime Minister Chretien in need of a public
relations boost to shrilling for the Soros front “Drop the Debt”, our man Bono has done handstands for some of the shadiest crimminals around.
> Good luck. It’s time that the likes of Bono were exposed.
some ppl do anything for a buck. no one will buy it, except for maybe greg, god bless ’em
some ppl do anything for a buck. no one will buy it, except for maybe greg, god bless ’em
again, what a lame attempt at guilt by association. i have a friend who worked in the treasury dept. at the international development bureau. he’s no republican, and was saddened at the depressingly small, under-utilized staff there. nevertheless, he knows and cares about africa as much as anyone, and he was emphatic that paul o’neill was part of the solution in africa, not part of the problem. o’neill didn’t let his disagreements with some ngos disuade him from taking action each and everyday, unlike the new secretary, john snow, who seems parallized with indifference. Eighty percent of the problem with US-African relations is the unwillingness of officials here to lift a finger. paul o’neill, I assure you, did not suffer from this handicap. besides, anyone who paid a lick of attention to the news knows that paul o’neill was no puppet of the administration. that’s why he was fired, folks: he had this annoying gift for speaking his mind and pursuing his ideas in earnest.
again, what a lame attempt at guilt by association. i have a friend who worked in the treasury dept. at the international development bureau. he’s no republican, and was saddened at the depressingly small, under-utilized staff there. nevertheless, he knows and cares about africa as much as anyone, and he was emphatic that paul o’neill was part of the solution in africa, not part of the problem. o’neill didn’t let his disagreements with some ngos disuade him from taking action each and everyday, unlike the new secretary, john snow, who seems parallized with indifference. Eighty percent of the problem with US-African relations is the unwillingness of officials here to lift a finger. paul o’neill, I assure you, did not suffer from this handicap. besides, anyone who paid a lick of attention to the news knows that paul o’neill was no puppet of the administration. that’s why he was fired, folks: he had this annoying gift for speaking his mind and pursuing his ideas in earnest.
I’m with MOBO!
I’m with MOBO!
oh my gosh, lol. this is the most ridiculous thing i have seen all year! whomever wrote this book has effectively just committed professional suicide, lol.
oh my gosh, lol. this is the most ridiculous thing i have seen all year! whomever wrote this book has effectively just committed professional suicide, lol.
bono:
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Bono about big pharmaceutical companies:
`I don’t think they (the big pharmaceutical companies) are the bete noir that all my friends think. I think they need to make profits, we need to do research,” Bono said
poor bono.
what is true:
” Global deal on cheap drugs for poor countries remains blocked by US administrations”
US wrecks cheap drugs deal
Cheney’s intervention blocks pact to help poor countries after pharmaceutical firms lobby White House
Larry Elliott and Charlotte Denny
Saturday December 21, 2002
The Guardian
Dick Cheney, the US vice-president, last night blocked a global deal to provide cheap drugs to poor countries, following intense lobbying of the White House by America’s pharmaceutical giants.
” Global deal on cheap drugs for poor countries remains bloc
Bush blocks deal allowing cheap drugs for world’s poor
February 19: George Bush’s close links with the drugs industry were last night blamed for the failure of talks in Geneva aimed at securing access to cheap medicines for developing countries.
ked by US administrations”
Bono about big pharmaceutical companies:
`I don’t think they (the big pharmaceutical companies) are the bete noir that all my friends think. I think they need to make profits, we need to do research,” Bono said
poor bono.
what is true:
” Global deal on cheap drugs for poor countries remains blocked by US administrations”
US wrecks cheap drugs deal
Cheney’s intervention blocks pact to help poor countries after pharmaceutical firms lobby White House
Larry Elliott and Charlotte Denny
Saturday December 21, 2002
The Guardian
Dick Cheney, the US vice-president, last night blocked a global deal to provide cheap drugs to poor countries, following intense lobbying of the White House by America’s pharmaceutical giants.
” Global deal on cheap drugs for poor countries remains bloc
Bush blocks deal allowing cheap drugs for world’s poor
February 19: George Bush’s close links with the drugs industry were last night blamed for the failure of talks in Geneva aimed at securing access to cheap medicines for developing countries.
ked by US administrations”
this is interesting. i think they have a good point. I can’t wait for the book.
this is interesting. i think they have a good point. I can’t wait for the book.
this is the true. and what bono and bush are saying is stupid PR for stupid people:
“US Threatened Trade Sanctions on South Africa for Trying to Help its People”
“South Africa is now the epicentre of the global Aids quake. The international community has been quick to respond to this catastrophe: the United States has threatened South Africa with sanctions for trying to prevent its citizens from catching the disease.” — The Guardian, September 1999.
In the middle of 1999, the interests of the pharmaceutical industry (via lobbying through Vice President Al Gore) had resulted in the US actually threatening South Africa with trade sanctions for trying to develop generic and cheaper drugs to fight AIDS etc.
An industry association, Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) and companies like Bristol-Myers Squibb, Glaxo-Wellcome, and Pfizer, which make the most widely used AIDS drugs, had charged South Africa with violating the World Trade Organization’s rules regarding patents and intellectual property.
However, there was nothing illegal about what South Africa was doing, and so the the actions of the pharmaceutical industry drew a lot of criticism that they were concerned mostly about the impacts to their sales. (While the World Trade Organization’s Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) agreement is controversial for many other aspects in its provisions, it still allows the ability for South Africa to produce cheaper drugs due to national emergencies and because it is for public, non-commercial use.)
Subsequent strong lobbying by Act Up-New York, James Love, Ralph Nader’s Consumer Project on Technology and others seem to have managed to force Gore to back down, for now.
“Of diseases in the Third World, AIDS is getting the most attention and focus. Not coincidentally, it is also one of the few diseases that remain a threat to First World countries.” — From “Pharmaceutical companies but profits before needs”, Censored 2000 P. 32
It has truly been incredible that such a motion was even considered in the first place. (Or is it, given that the underlying goal for most pharmaceutical companies is “profit at all costs”?, as charged by Delhi-based Centre for Science and Environment. The way that various international trade agreements are negotiated and dominated has not been atypical of this, either.)
Also, now that there is a possibility that the economy of various countries in Africa will be affected, the US will refrain from imposing sanctions on Sub-Saharan governments.
The possible implications of such a trade sanction would have been considerable when realizing that, according to UNICEF, more people in Africa have died from AIDS than from conflicts. (Also check out this link reporting the same fact.)
this is the true. and what bono and bush are saying is stupid PR for stupid people:
“US Threatened Trade Sanctions on South Africa for Trying to Help its People”
“South Africa is now the epicentre of the global Aids quake. The international community has been quick to respond to this catastrophe: the United States has threatened South Africa with sanctions for trying to prevent its citizens from catching the disease.” — The Guardian, September 1999.
In the middle of 1999, the interests of the pharmaceutical industry (via lobbying through Vice President Al Gore) had resulted in the US actually threatening South Africa with trade sanctions for trying to develop generic and cheaper drugs to fight AIDS etc.
An industry association, Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) and companies like Bristol-Myers Squibb, Glaxo-Wellcome, and Pfizer, which make the most widely used AIDS drugs, had charged South Africa with violating the World Trade Organization’s rules regarding patents and intellectual property.
However, there was nothing illegal about what South Africa was doing, and so the the actions of the pharmaceutical industry drew a lot of criticism that they were concerned mostly about the impacts to their sales. (While the World Trade Organization’s Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) agreement is controversial for many other aspects in its provisions, it still allows the ability for South Africa to produce cheaper drugs due to national emergencies and because it is for public, non-commercial use.)
Subsequent strong lobbying by Act Up-New York, James Love, Ralph Nader’s Consumer Project on Technology and others seem to have managed to force Gore to back down, for now.
“Of diseases in the Third World, AIDS is getting the most attention and focus. Not coincidentally, it is also one of the few diseases that remain a threat to First World countries.” — From “Pharmaceutical companies but profits before needs”, Censored 2000 P. 32
It has truly been incredible that such a motion was even considered in the first place. (Or is it, given that the underlying goal for most pharmaceutical companies is “profit at all costs”?, as charged by Delhi-based Centre for Science and Environment. The way that various international trade agreements are negotiated and dominated has not been atypical of this, either.)
Also, now that there is a possibility that the economy of various countries in Africa will be affected, the US will refrain from imposing sanctions on Sub-Saharan governments.
The possible implications of such a trade sanction would have been considerable when realizing that, according to UNICEF, more people in Africa have died from AIDS than from conflicts. (Also check out this link reporting the same fact.)
there is a lot of valid points here. hey, we all like bono. but we should see what other people think about it. there is nothing wrong with that.
there is a lot of valid points here. hey, we all like bono. but we should see what other people think about it. there is nothing wrong with that.
Even though I disagree with the authors’ stoneage economic spin and criticisms of Bono for his political activism, it is a very interesting subject and makes for a lively debate. No need to post entire magazine articles though, right?
Even though I disagree with the authors’ stoneage economic spin and criticisms of Bono for his political activism, it is a very interesting subject and makes for a lively debate. No need to post entire magazine articles though, right?
This is the longest thread of all time!!! Everybody’s got good points, the way to negate your point is to be a complete asshole about it, so let’s all be cool!!! I also stand by my point that I’ve always made awhen someone attacks Bono for doing this sort of thing, and that is there is nothing wrong with trying to help…
This is the longest thread of all time!!! Everybody’s got good points, the way to negate your point is to be a complete asshole about it, so let’s all be cool!!! I also stand by my point that I’ve always made awhen someone attacks Bono for doing this sort of thing, and that is there is nothing wrong with trying to help…
While the debate rages on, I’ve taken the liberty of contacting the freelance photographer who took the cover photo for Time magazine from which the proposed cover image from this book was stolen. The copyright battle should be just as interesting as this thread.
While the debate rages on, I’ve taken the liberty of contacting the freelance photographer who took the cover photo for Time magazine from which the proposed cover image from this book was stolen. The copyright battle should be just as interesting as this thread.
ancient chinese proverb says: “long post hammered many time make dull point”
ancient chinese proverb says: “long post hammered many time make dull point”
this cannot be for real.
this cannot be for real.
It doesn’t matter what you do, there’ll always be ppl who disagree.
I personally think you can link anyone to anything if you want, so ofcourse you can link Bono to bad guys and bad things.
I have only one question: Why would he even bother… He is famous, has everything he wants. He doesn’t _have_to_ do charity, especially when he would risk being associated with terrorism.
It doesn’t matter what you do, there’ll always be ppl who disagree.
I personally think you can link anyone to anything if you want, so ofcourse you can link Bono to bad guys and bad things.
I have only one question: Why would he even bother… He is famous, has everything he wants. He doesn’t _have_to_ do charity, especially when he would risk being associated with terrorism.
I guess that in the world of politics, the one that is your friend today, is an enemy tomorrow… The power game simply corrupts almost everybody, its more or less an addiction. But that doesn’t mean that the desire to do good will dissappear comletely: so what is wrong with using that little positive spark in a politician who’s hands might not be clean after all?
The world is full of conflicts of interest, and that will be the case forever. So if you take a step forward, there always will be someone who will argue that it should have been a step backwards.
Therefore I say: Let Bono make use of the momentum to persuade any politician with the power to do good, to actually do some good! In the end, the world will be a better place. Or al least a little bit…!
First of all, Bono is a musician, second, he tries to make this world a better place. AND SO SHOULD WE!
I guess that in the world of politics, the one that is your friend today, is an enemy tomorrow… The power game simply corrupts almost everybody, its more or less an addiction. But that doesn’t mean that the desire to do good will dissappear comletely: so what is wrong with using that little positive spark in a politician who’s hands might not be clean after all?
The world is full of conflicts of interest, and that will be the case forever. So if you take a step forward, there always will be someone who will argue that it should have been a step backwards.
Therefore I say: Let Bono make use of the momentum to persuade any politician with the power to do good, to actually do some good! In the end, the world will be a better place. Or al least a little bit…!
First of all, Bono is a musician, second, he tries to make this world a better place. AND SO SHOULD WE!
Ok, these posts are definetly TOO long and many of them without a purpose… We need moderators here… and a log in system. Many of these posts are clearly made by the same person using a different alias.
That said, here’s my humble opinion;
Bono will always, as the public controversial person he is, be the target of such acusations. We know that, and Bono knows that! He knows very much that his actions will make him unpopular in some circles (he has even recieved deatht threats!?!). Yet he continues to work very hard for thos issues! Why? Because he believes that the time is not for discution, or for pointing acusing fingers at each other. The time is for action! People are dying here, every minute of the day because of 1 reason; money. Bono is a man who actually DOES something to change this, instead of just sitting down and talking of moral issues (like us). I say; when no more people are dying, come to me again. Then well talk…
Ok, these posts are definetly TOO long and many of them without a purpose… We need moderators here… and a log in system. Many of these posts are clearly made by the same person using a different alias.
That said, here’s my humble opinion;
Bono will always, as the public controversial person he is, be the target of such acusations. We know that, and Bono knows that! He knows very much that his actions will make him unpopular in some circles (he has even recieved deatht threats!?!). Yet he continues to work very hard for thos issues! Why? Because he believes that the time is not for discution, or for pointing acusing fingers at each other. The time is for action! People are dying here, every minute of the day because of 1 reason; money. Bono is a man who actually DOES something to change this, instead of just sitting down and talking of moral issues (like us). I say; when no more people are dying, come to me again. Then well talk…
I feel somewhat personally responsible for starting this debate.
My apologies to you all!
I feel somewhat personally responsible for starting this debate.
My apologies to you all!
The trouble with Bono is, he is a freethinker and an independent soul. He seems like ripe pickins for the capital “L” liberals, the ones who really don’t give a damn about world justice, economic parity or people’s suffering, but who live to embrace their own sanctimony, masturbate over their stale ideology, and revel in their superiority over all who won’t play their game. They really are no better than the fascists they claim to oppose, because their motives are based only on ego. They would love to co-op Bono as one of their own, but he won’t go for it, and that goes right up their noses. Bono knows you can’t clean up a mess without getting your hands dirty, and they won’t come down from their ivory tower for any reason. That’s why they never get anything worthwhile done. The fascists thought the last few years were a good opportunity to use Bono for their purposes — didn’t happen. The capital “C” Christians, who bear as much resemblance to Christ as the devil himself, thought they could use Bono too, but, he wouldn’t go for it. That’s where you get all these diatribes and all this hostility against a man who is simply trying to do the right thing based on his own reasoned and intelligent moral compass. Walter van Tilburg Clark in the Ox Bow Incident makes the observation that human beings are the only species that attacks the best among them, not the worst. We’ve seen this before, and we’ll see it again. But Bono will survive because he’s the real deal. He doesn’t go through life with his nose in someone else’s behind, looking for direction. There never has been, and never will be, anything more threatening to the dark side than a human being with an independent mind.
The trouble with Bono is, he is a freethinker and an independent soul. He seems like ripe pickins for the capital “L” liberals, the ones who really don’t give a damn about world justice, economic parity or people’s suffering, but who live to embrace their own sanctimony, masturbate over their stale ideology, and revel in their superiority over all who won’t play their game. They really are no better than the fascists they claim to oppose, because their motives are based only on ego. They would love to co-op Bono as one of their own, but he won’t go for it, and that goes right up their noses. Bono knows you can’t clean up a mess without getting your hands dirty, and they won’t come down from their ivory tower for any reason. That’s why they never get anything worthwhile done. The fascists thought the last few years were a good opportunity to use Bono for their purposes — didn’t happen. The capital “C” Christians, who bear as much resemblance to Christ as the devil himself, thought they could use Bono too, but, he wouldn’t go for it. That’s where you get all these diatribes and all this hostility against a man who is simply trying to do the right thing based on his own reasoned and intelligent moral compass. Walter van Tilburg Clark in the Ox Bow Incident makes the observation that human beings are the only species that attacks the best among them, not the worst. We’ve seen this before, and we’ll see it again. But Bono will survive because he’s the real deal. He doesn’t go through life with his nose in someone else’s behind, looking for direction. There never has been, and never will be, anything more threatening to the dark side than a human being with an independent mind.
Yup, well said Paige ;)…
Yup, well said Paige ;)…
The book will be interesting at least. I tried reading some of the arguments against Bono in this thread, but one sentence made me stop: “The Bush administration, after all, came to power by illegitimate and undemocratic means.” Nonsense! Are liberals still crying over this?
The book will be interesting at least. I tried reading some of the arguments against Bono in this thread, but one sentence made me stop: “The Bush administration, after all, came to power by illegitimate and undemocratic means.” Nonsense! Are liberals still crying over this?
There is a lot of articles here, but they are not from the book. They are from different sources (Guardian Magazine, Ottawa Citizen, Yahoo News…) We can not talk about book, without knowing what is going to be in the book.
So before you make your opinion about anything, you should read first what is in the book. I had a chance to read parts of this book, and this book is not anti-bono at all.
So if we want to discuss things, we should wait to see what is all about.
There is a lot of articles here, but they are not from the book. They are from different sources (Guardian Magazine, Ottawa Citizen, Yahoo News…) We can not talk about book, without knowing what is going to be in the book.
So before you make your opinion about anything, you should read first what is in the book. I had a chance to read parts of this book, and this book is not anti-bono at all.
So if we want to discuss things, we should wait to see what is all about.
The funniest comment that I have ever gone through on this site is that CNN should be watched to gain a real world perspective. Not only is it funny, it is the most ignorant thing that I have ever heard. CNN skewers the facts and distorts the reality of the news that they are reporting, more than anyone and it’s fairly obvious, too. If you want real world perspective, check out BBC News, they are an organization that reports the news and who are not influenced by the Bush administration.
The funniest comment that I have ever gone through on this site is that CNN should be watched to gain a real world perspective. Not only is it funny, it is the most ignorant thing that I have ever heard. CNN skewers the facts and distorts the reality of the news that they are reporting, more than anyone and it’s fairly obvious, too. If you want real world perspective, check out BBC News, they are an organization that reports the news and who are not influenced by the Bush administration.
Gosh, look what happens when I’m too busy to keep an eye on my site. I’m too tired to be polite: Don’t post entire articles to our site, wasting our space and bandwidth and patience. OK? Take it to e-mail.
Gosh, look what happens when I’m too busy to keep an eye on my site. I’m too tired to be polite: Don’t post entire articles to our site, wasting our space and bandwidth and patience. OK? Take it to e-mail.