McGuinness joins Oxford Union Annual Debate

Paul McGuinness will be participating in the ‘the most famous debating society’ Oxford Union’s Annual Debate.

This year’s proposition is “This House believes that reality T.V. is killing real music.”

McGuinness, Duran Duran’s Nick Rhodes and Badly Drawn Boy will be arguing in favour. Louis Walsh (manager of Westlife), Neil Fox (Pop Idol judge( and Richard Parks (BBC’s Fame Academy) will be in the opposition.

The event takes place on Thursday May 6th, 2004.

(via duranduran.com, Trev, HJB)

24 thoughts on “McGuinness joins Oxford Union Annual Debate

  1. I don’t understand the proposition. What has reality TV got to do with ‘real’ music? I think the opposition has won before it begins. Sounds like a contrived arguement to get these people on opposite sides. What a crock!

  2. I don’t understand the proposition. What has reality TV got to do with ‘real’ music? I think the opposition has won before it begins. Sounds like a contrived arguement to get these people on opposite sides. What a crock!

  3. I would agree with Ummar’s assumption that the debate will be about the negative impact reality TV shows, such as American Idol and Nashville Star, have had the music buisness.

    I hope a transcript of the debate is posted online after it takes place.

  4. I would agree with Ummar’s assumption that the debate will be about the negative impact reality TV shows, such as American Idol and Nashville Star, have had the music buisness.

    I hope a transcript of the debate is posted online after it takes place.

  5. Let’s put it this way. If Bob Dylan was on one of the Idol shows, he’d be kicked off at auditions and called crap. Music has very little to do with those shows.

  6. Let’s put it this way. If Bob Dylan was on one of the Idol shows, he’d be kicked off at auditions and called crap. Music has very little to do with those shows.

  7. funny though since dylan is rumoured to be a celebrity judge on american idol, *sigh* and paul mccartney *excepted from him, but… *sigh** pop versions of hurricane and like a rolling stone… hmm

  8. funny though since dylan is rumoured to be a celebrity judge on american idol, *sigh* and paul mccartney *excepted from him, but… *sigh** pop versions of hurricane and like a rolling stone… hmm

  9. There will always be a crappy mainstream cultural crust, because there always has been, and this time around, it is expressed in hack idiocy like American Idol and its clones. I think the fear is that the next generation is being dumbed down in this particular respect to think that creating music is based in competition, open to grade-school insult by morons, and is chiefly comprised of overwrought yahoos influenced by Mariah Carey and really bad Broadway performers. Having said that, Martin is right — it’s a cheap excuse to take advantage of the reality TV hullabaloo, a flimsy premise for argument of this nature, and one would hope the Oxford Union would have a bit more integrity than that — what are they trying to do, not appear “stuffy” to “the kids?” Eesh. You’d think Paul would have better things to do than this; perhaps, despite his wealth and position, he’s getting a little stifled remaining outside the spotlight next to four guys who can’t stand in an empty swimming pool without getting their pics on the front page of the papers!! (BTW, anybody see those photos snapped by Margarida on that message board in Portugal? Thank you Margarida! ADAM LIVES, and Larry is still looking pleased. All’s right with the world.) And if Dylan ends up as a judge on American Idol, I’m, to quote the great Lucy Ricardo, jumping in a hole and pulling the hole in after me.

  10. There will always be a crappy mainstream cultural crust, because there always has been, and this time around, it is expressed in hack idiocy like American Idol and its clones. I think the fear is that the next generation is being dumbed down in this particular respect to think that creating music is based in competition, open to grade-school insult by morons, and is chiefly comprised of overwrought yahoos influenced by Mariah Carey and really bad Broadway performers. Having said that, Martin is right — it’s a cheap excuse to take advantage of the reality TV hullabaloo, a flimsy premise for argument of this nature, and one would hope the Oxford Union would have a bit more integrity than that — what are they trying to do, not appear “stuffy” to “the kids?” Eesh. You’d think Paul would have better things to do than this; perhaps, despite his wealth and position, he’s getting a little stifled remaining outside the spotlight next to four guys who can’t stand in an empty swimming pool without getting their pics on the front page of the papers!! (BTW, anybody see those photos snapped by Margarida on that message board in Portugal? Thank you Margarida! ADAM LIVES, and Larry is still looking pleased. All’s right with the world.) And if Dylan ends up as a judge on American Idol, I’m, to quote the great Lucy Ricardo, jumping in a hole and pulling the hole in after me.

  11. Go get ’em, McG.! I’m so sick of all this “reality” crap! It’s gone way too far.

    I read not to long ago that Bono said (about all this “Pop Idol” business), “I’d like to pick them up and bite their heads off!” It would be a favor to society if he really did it.

  12. Go get ’em, McG.! I’m so sick of all this “reality” crap! It’s gone way too far.

    I read not to long ago that Bono said (about all this “Pop Idol” business), “I’d like to pick them up and bite their heads off!” It would be a favor to society if he really did it.

  13. …man…vonb…you pick the worst stories for us to comment on…that said…I think this whole thing is a glorified pub brawl…I think reality t.v. is reality…and the auditioning process sucks…so if you can get someone like paul mcguinness to back your band and help you get a record deal based on pure exuberant enthusiasm and the talent to make a spectacle of yourself and not be embarrassed…so be it.

  14. …man…vonb…you pick the worst stories for us to comment on…that said…I think this whole thing is a glorified pub brawl…I think reality t.v. is reality…and the auditioning process sucks…so if you can get someone like paul mcguinness to back your band and help you get a record deal based on pure exuberant enthusiasm and the talent to make a spectacle of yourself and not be embarrassed…so be it.

  15. Can’t we comment on the other stories, like the tour confirmation or should be be done in another part of this site??

  16. Can’t we comment on the other stories, like the tour confirmation or should be be done in another part of this site??

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